A White House Employee’s Testimony About Jan. 6, 2021

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something specifically, only to see if it refreshes your recollection. But we do have

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but, Maybe he should be fucking hung, maybe he deserves it.

Do you remember hearing the President expressing any sentiment like that in the

afternoon of the 6th?

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I don’t, sir.. No, sir.

And so it could have happened, you just don’t recall it, or do you actually

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know for a fact it didn’t happen, in your memory?

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I don’t recall. Again, I don’t know if it happened or not.

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Okay. And tell me,

the Oval Dining Room,

people are gathering, what’s the mood? I mean, are people angry, upset, yelling? What’s going on to the best you can tell?

A It felt like a lot of, like, disbelief. It felt like a lot of, like, problem solving.

It felt like a lot of running around. So that’s what it felt like, people still in — I guess still in shock of what was happening. And like, I guess, like problem solving. It was like, what are we going to do. And, you know — and that ties in with people just running around pretty much, running from office to office and all over the place.

Q You earlier recalled that Jared Kushner and the President’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, came into the Oval Dining Room where the President was.

Do you know why they were going in? Did they want something in particular? A I don’t know why they — I mean, I have no clue what they said to him or

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what was out of that.

a Okay. We understand that Ivanka in particular went in to encourage her father, the President, to make a statement about what was happening at the Capitol.

Does that refresh anything in your mind about why Ms. Trump was going in and